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	<title>Comments on: On fake-torrents</title>
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	<description>running an open bittorrent tracker</description>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-8227</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It saddens me that somebody always has to use these debates to promote private trackers. Private trackers create half of the problem - people save all their upload for private so they can get a good ratio and increase their e-penis, and to do so they have to hit-and-run on public torrents when they can&#039;t find what they want privately, and then they bitch about how slow the public torrent was because of all the hit-and-runs. Am I the only one who sees the pattern here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It saddens me that somebody always has to use these debates to promote private trackers. Private trackers create half of the problem &#8211; people save all their upload for private so they can get a good ratio and increase their e-penis, and to do so they have to hit-and-run on public torrents when they can&#8217;t find what they want privately, and then they bitch about how slow the public torrent was because of all the hit-and-runs. Am I the only one who sees the pattern here?</p>
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		<title>By: Takuya101</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-7281</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuya101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your tracker in a torrent which I am downloading at this time, as of yet I think I should be surprised that people would put the blame on a tracker, sadly I&#039;m not.

I would be asking them if they think that a tracker hosts files and that&#039;s where the data comes from.

Isn&#039;t a tracker more like a post office? I haven&#039;t looked up what a tracker is but as I understand it, they work as a backbone for torrents and the ones sharing and downloading the files are doing the hosting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your tracker in a torrent which I am downloading at this time, as of yet I think I should be surprised that people would put the blame on a tracker, sadly I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p>I would be asking them if they think that a tracker hosts files and that&#8217;s where the data comes from.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t a tracker more like a post office? I haven&#8217;t looked up what a tracker is but as I understand it, they work as a backbone for torrents and the ones sharing and downloading the files are doing the hosting?</p>
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		<title>By: nox</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-6999</link>
		<dc:creator>nox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i appreciate all of the work you guys have done for the torrent community. ignore the stupid fuck &quot;Me&quot;, he doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s talking about. 

keep up the good work, and know that you are greatly appreciated and revered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i appreciate all of the work you guys have done for the torrent community. ignore the stupid fuck &#8220;Me&#8221;, he doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about. </p>
<p>keep up the good work, and know that you are greatly appreciated and revered.</p>
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		<title>By: charl</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-6729</link>
		<dc:creator>charl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for the open tracker, fast downloading of torrents will not be possible without public open trackers like you guys. fake torrents downloaded by idiots serves them right, its your choice to download without others commenting if its real or fake so dont blame the trackers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the open tracker, fast downloading of torrents will not be possible without public open trackers like you guys. fake torrents downloaded by idiots serves them right, its your choice to download without others commenting if its real or fake so dont blame the trackers.</p>
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		<title>By: zarathustra</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-3487</link>
		<dc:creator>zarathustra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ignore all of this uninformed criticism. People who spout &#039;nub&#039; or &#039;non-nub&#039; are below bothering about; wormfood.

Let them get back to their &quot;13370dayW4R5Z&quot; &amp; refrain from even giving them this platform to blether their paranoiac, delusional gobshite.

I, for one, am grateful for your work on the opentracker project. Please keep it up. =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ignore all of this uninformed criticism. People who spout &#8216;nub&#8217; or &#8216;non-nub&#8217; are below bothering about; wormfood.</p>
<p>Let them get back to their &#8220;13370dayW4R5Z&#8221; &amp; refrain from even giving them this platform to blether their paranoiac, delusional gobshite.</p>
<p>I, for one, am grateful for your work on the opentracker project. Please keep it up. =]</p>
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		<title>By: loPh9</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-3018</link>
		<dc:creator>loPh9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>denis.stalker.com         will be down soon, the 98.8% tracker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>denis.stalker.com         will be down soon, the 98.8% tracker</p>
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		<title>By: taklamakan</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-2316</link>
		<dc:creator>taklamakan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Me:

Re: How is this at all different from people not having to open email? 

The problem with spam is that you already received it in your inbox, it already wasted server resources, used up disk space, made the mailserver sysad cry etc. It all ends with you opening the spam mail and wasting your time.
With torrents it starts with you downloading the torrent and only then it wastes server resources and use up disk space. It is a huge difference.

The spam problem would be gone long ago if end-users could say &quot;Stop, I don&#039;t want to receive spam anymore!&quot; and they can easily do that with torrent! They just need to read the comments and make the decision to download the files or not.

Re: You do, in fact, keep and review detailed statistics of what is going on.

We do? The MRTG graphs are the only statistics we keep.

Re: You do, in fact, employ filtering methods on torrents that you personally disagree with, such as those that charge money for warez.

If you refer to the torrenty.org story, thats not filtering &quot;a torrent&quot;, thats filtering a &quot;a tracker&quot; owned by people who earn money by selling warez and who use our resources to do so.

Re: I devote significant computing resources to the community. I vigilantly bring malicious torrents to people’s attention. I provide content to places where people can benefit from it. I am thinking about ways to improve the protocol to make it more usable for people with different needs.

Well keep up the good work, maybe after all we are pulling in the same direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Me:</p>
<p>Re: How is this at all different from people not having to open email? </p>
<p>The problem with spam is that you already received it in your inbox, it already wasted server resources, used up disk space, made the mailserver sysad cry etc. It all ends with you opening the spam mail and wasting your time.<br />
With torrents it starts with you downloading the torrent and only then it wastes server resources and use up disk space. It is a huge difference.</p>
<p>The spam problem would be gone long ago if end-users could say &#8220;Stop, I don&#8217;t want to receive spam anymore!&#8221; and they can easily do that with torrent! They just need to read the comments and make the decision to download the files or not.</p>
<p>Re: You do, in fact, keep and review detailed statistics of what is going on.</p>
<p>We do? The MRTG graphs are the only statistics we keep.</p>
<p>Re: You do, in fact, employ filtering methods on torrents that you personally disagree with, such as those that charge money for warez.</p>
<p>If you refer to the torrenty.org story, thats not filtering &#8220;a torrent&#8221;, thats filtering a &#8220;a tracker&#8221; owned by people who earn money by selling warez and who use our resources to do so.</p>
<p>Re: I devote significant computing resources to the community. I vigilantly bring malicious torrents to people’s attention. I provide content to places where people can benefit from it. I am thinking about ways to improve the protocol to make it more usable for people with different needs.</p>
<p>Well keep up the good work, maybe after all we are pulling in the same direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Me @ taklamakan</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-2314</link>
		<dc:creator>Me @ taklamakan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: The difference is...

People do not have to download something offered. Of course it is easy to deceive people. How is this at all different from people not having to open email? It is not at all different.

Re: we are not a 24/7 on-call duty team...

Nobody implied that you were or should be. Of course, it is a common (and weak) debating tactic to take an extreme point of view and say that it is that of your opponent.

I have read postings by you that detail simple things you do to maintain the integrity of torrents as long as it suits your purposes. You do, in fact, keep and review detailed statistics of what is going on. You do, in fact, employ filtering methods on torrents that you personally disagree with, such as those that charge money for warez.

Re: What did you do today for bittorrent?

I devote significant computing resources to the community. I vigilantly bring malicious torrents to people&#039;s attention. I provide content to places where people can benefit from it. I am thinking about ways to improve the protocol to make it more usable for people with different needs.

Why would you accuse me of doing little when you know nothing about who I am or my background?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The difference is&#8230;</p>
<p>People do not have to download something offered. Of course it is easy to deceive people. How is this at all different from people not having to open email? It is not at all different.</p>
<p>Re: we are not a 24/7 on-call duty team&#8230;</p>
<p>Nobody implied that you were or should be. Of course, it is a common (and weak) debating tactic to take an extreme point of view and say that it is that of your opponent.</p>
<p>I have read postings by you that detail simple things you do to maintain the integrity of torrents as long as it suits your purposes. You do, in fact, keep and review detailed statistics of what is going on. You do, in fact, employ filtering methods on torrents that you personally disagree with, such as those that charge money for warez.</p>
<p>Re: What did you do today for bittorrent?</p>
<p>I devote significant computing resources to the community. I vigilantly bring malicious torrents to people&#8217;s attention. I provide content to places where people can benefit from it. I am thinking about ways to improve the protocol to make it more usable for people with different needs.</p>
<p>Why would you accuse me of doing little when you know nothing about who I am or my background?</p>
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		<title>By: taklamakan</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>taklamakan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is: You don&#039;t have to download a torrent if you don&#039;t want to. Just don&#039;t do it. Its your decision to do that, not ours.
We are not sending you any torrent you have to download, we don&#039;t even have the torrent and we certainly do not send you any fake data.

Well we do.. some random ipaddr. that do not do bittorrent at all. The perfect deniability stuff, sorry for that!

Again, you will find out if a torrent is fake by reading the comments in bittorrent community sites, we are not a 24/7 on-call duty team hunting for hashes of fake torrents, instead of that, our service is free of charge.

Besides, we have better stuff to do with our time like keeping this service running, maintain the opentracker source-code, think about the protocol development etc.

What did you do today for bittorrent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is: You don&#8217;t have to download a torrent if you don&#8217;t want to. Just don&#8217;t do it. Its your decision to do that, not ours.<br />
We are not sending you any torrent you have to download, we don&#8217;t even have the torrent and we certainly do not send you any fake data.</p>
<p>Well we do.. some random ipaddr. that do not do bittorrent at all. The perfect deniability stuff, sorry for that!</p>
<p>Again, you will find out if a torrent is fake by reading the comments in bittorrent community sites, we are not a 24/7 on-call duty team hunting for hashes of fake torrents, instead of that, our service is free of charge.</p>
<p>Besides, we have better stuff to do with our time like keeping this service running, maintain the opentracker source-code, think about the protocol development etc.</p>
<p>What did you do today for bittorrent?</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/2007/12/09/on-fake-torrents/comment-page-1/#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I set up an email host, called it an Openemailer and allowed anybody to email anyone any amount of mail, then I could claim that I was not responsible for all the spam coming through my host?

Once made aware of a problem, you cannot block hashes because...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I set up an email host, called it an Openemailer and allowed anybody to email anyone any amount of mail, then I could claim that I was not responsible for all the spam coming through my host?</p>
<p>Once made aware of a problem, you cannot block hashes because&#8230;?</p>
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